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Society Is Crumbling Right In Front Of Our Eyes And Banning Guns Won’t Help

What in the world is happening to America?  I have written many articles about how society is crumbling right in front of our eyes, but now it is getting to the point where people are going to be afraid to go to school or go shopping at the mall.  Just consider what has happened over the past week.  Adam Lanza savagely murdered 20 children and 6 adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.  42-year-old Marcus Gurrola threatened to shoot innocent shoppers and fired off more than 50 rounds in the parking lot of Fashion Island Mall in Newport Beach, California.  After police apprehended him, he told them that he “was unhappy with life”.  Earlier in the week, a crazy man wearing a hockey mask and armed with a semi-automatic rifle opened fire on the second floor of a mall in Happy Valley, Oregon.  He killed two people and injured a third.  On Saturday morning, a lone gunman walked into a hospital in Alabama and opened fire.  He killed one police officer and two hospital employees before being gunned down by another police officer.  So have we now reached the point where every school, every mall and every hospital is going to need armed security?  How will society function efficiently if everyone is constantly worried about mass murderers?

In response to the horrible tragedy in Connecticut, many in the mainstream media are suggesting that much stricter gun laws are the obvious solution.

After all, if we get rid of all the guns these crazy people won’t be able to commit these kinds of crimes, right?

Unfortunately, that is not how it works.  The criminals don’t obey gun control laws.  Banning guns will just take them out of the hands of law-abiding American citizens that just want to protect their own families.

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7 Comments

  1. You are exactly right. If I feel like a person is about to do bodily hard to me or my family(I’m not married and have no children), I am not going to hesitate to protect myself and my gift of life as well as my family. Yes, I am a huge pro-gun supporter, but I do think there needs to be some more guidelines and requirements before purchasing any firearm.

    There is a quote I read the other day that said the following:

    You may not like guns, and choose not to own one. That is your right. You might not believe in God. That is your choice. However, if someone breaks into your home the first two things you’re going to do are: 1) Call someone with a gun. 2) Pray to God they get there in time. – Unknown

    Gun control is not the problem. The gun can’t load itself, the gun can’t pull its trigger. The person is the problem. Where do people start?….School. We need to go back to the basics of how we raise our kids(this is coming from a 21 year man, me), and put God back into school. Oh and did I forget discipline!…..Yeah I said it!.

    Anyways great article. Enjoyed it!

  2. Reblogged this on White Rabbit's Cafe.

    • It’s good to get a fresh way of looknig at it.

  3. You’re wrong on multiple levels. Removing guns from society has proven, over and over again to significantly lower the number of deaths associated with guns. In the US, even cutting the number of gun deaths in half? That’s roughly 15,000 lives saved.

    In reality a very small percentage of people use their guns in self defense. What generally happens is they pick up their own gun and use it one themselves or their family or their gun is taken from them and used against them.

    I’ve been blogging about this quite a bit myself and I’ve outlined, pretty much every pro-gun argument there is. They’re really all either based on fault information or poor logic..

    Written a few days before Sandy Hook: http://isobeldebrujah.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/the-post-about-guns-in-america/

    Written the day after Sandy Hook: http://isobeldebrujah.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/the-second-post-about-guns-in-america-rights-responsiblities-and-what-we-can-do-to-save-lives/

    Written the day before yesterday: http://isobeldebrujah.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/pro-gun-bingo/

    Written Today: http://isobeldebrujah.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/what-makes-a-tragedy/

  4. Post #1
    The Post About Guns In America
    “Having said all that, it’s just not logistically possible to ban guns in the United States. The very idea of trying is nightmare inducing. So what is the solution? Switzerland. No that’s not a joke. The vast majority of Swiss men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations; Switzerland thus has one of the highest gun ownership rates per capita in the world. And yet, they have a significantly lower murder by firearm rate. So unless we’re going to pretend that Americans are just murderous by nature, we really need to look at their gun control laws. They would be considered, by most American standards, draconian. But you know what? those laws keep their populace alive. Maybe we should try that.”

    I think you missed the point… it’s about a culture not about the laws. The laws are part of the culture for sure, but it’s about respect for the firearm and respect for your fellow men. In the US there is too much GUN IGNORANCE.

    Post #2
    The Second Post About Guns In America: Rights, Responsibilities , And What We Can Do To Save Lives
    “Mental illness didn’t cause the deaths of 28 humans yesterday. Evil did not perpetrate 30 mass shootings in the last decade. There is no rational justification for 87 gun deaths every day. Stop trying to find one.
    Instead start trying to find a solution. More guns equals more deaths. Stricter gun control saves lives. End of fucking file.”

    I noted that there are several such emotionally charged and frustrated rants in your blogging as of late, and you are entitled to it. I agree that there should be more gun control… but that should be the responsibility of the gun owner and legislated in such a manner. NOT penalize those people that do own firearms and lock them away like a responsible member of society.
    Banning firearms is not the answer, better control and legislation of firearms and the way they are stored at home is absolutely the most positive action to be taken.

    Post #3
    Pro-Gun BINGO
    “Rant rant rant”

    Well… yes I see that you are completely on the far side of the fence. I however am much closer to my side of the fence and I stand tall and can see into your yard. I am a very open minded and well rounded individual and can see that you are very passionate about your opinion to the extent that no-one else’s opinion matters. My apologies… I take that back… no-one else’s opinion matters unless you can have a controversial response with which to fuel your fire. So with that said… Good luck with knee-jerk-reaction America. I hope YOU get what you want, and continue to get what you want, and the masses of paperwork that follows suit. And the masses of legislation and red-tape. There is a fiscal cliff looming, and it’s all yours. Oh my!

    Post #4
    What Makes a Tragedy?
    “After the shooting at Newtown there have been a number of conversations about a number of things. Among the conversations there appear to be a few things that people can agree on. We’re hearing a lot of the same words; “tragedy, horrible, heinous, innocent victims, never again, this time it feels different.” And that’s good. It’s good that people are finally coming to care about the epidemic of gun violence in America. It’s good that maybe we will be able to do something, some small thing, to save lives.
    There are four reasons that the Sandy Hook shooting is getting so much media attention.
    1.Proximity – Newtown, Connecticut is very close to New York City. NYC is, of course a major news market. Journalists are not immune to self centeredness by any means. It matters to them because it is close to them.
    2.Numbers – Often when a large number of people are killed or wounded in one very small location in a very short period of time, other people notice.
    3.Age – Most of the victims were grade-schoolers. Given our cultural belief that children are innocent, the victims last Friday are safe to identify with.
    4.Race – Most of the victims were white.
    All of these things combine to make this a meaningful event that will have an impact on our nation. But it’s also kind of hard to watch. Why? Because it’s another way in which our nation tells People of Color we have no value.”

    Actually Isobel, this blog I found to be very learned, informative and enlightening somewhat. Big Media and the political machine have indeed made the Newport incident indirectly about PoC (People Of Color) as you say. They have fed the public on pictures of sweet smiles and innocent infants. The have engaged everyone in a pro-white discrimination and blurred the facts about gun related incidents, pushing the emotional candy that is so sweet that everyone wants to try it and be heard, and be seen to make changes. The US Government has been irresponsible for a decade regarding gun legislation, however I still stand by my belief that a gun ban is not the answer. There are and will continue to be many arguments, to’s and fro’s, positive and negative opinions regarding guns… what will be next if firearms are banned? Sometimes it’s better the devil you know…

    • #1 We can’t conscript everyone. I mean, if we could, that would be outstanding. I would be totally down with that plan. But we can’t. What we can do, is remove guns from the home, like Switzerland did. If you want a gun, it has to be kept at the range. If you want to hunt, that’s fine, you keep the gun somewhere not at your private residence and if you want to take it out of that place you must be traveling from your gun’s home to whatever place you are signing the gun out to or you face serious legal consequences.

      America can’t ban guns totally but if we start with that goal, if we move as close as we can toward it? We’ll fall short but we’ll make everyone safer. I’m OK with failing that way.

      #2 Irrationality makes me cranky. If you read father back in my blog history you’ll find that I define debate as practically a holy calling. There are rules. There is no rule against hyperbole. There is however, a rule against lying. And for the most part, the arguments in favor of guns are lies.

      Fewer guns equals fewer deaths. That’s just factual.

      #3 This is my favorite reaction. I mean it. No sarcasm. When someone answer a list of logical fallacies with another logical fallacy. In this case Poisoning the Well. In debate terms, that’s pretty much like giving me a big old hug. “Well, done. I can’t refute anything you’ve written here so rather than try, I’m going in another direction, Please don’t notice.”

      #4 Race plays a factor in every aspect of America and I notice, you ignored the other points I made; most importantly the one about the fiction need for people to keep guns to protect themselves from a fictional intruder and how that person is, in most people’s minds, a PoC. The availability of guns in American society puts EVERYONE in danger, but PoC more than others.

      Here’s an important thing that you ignored in your failure to refute any of the facts I offered.

      According to everything we’ve heard so far, up until the moment that he decided murder 27 people, Adam Lanza was a law abiding person. The guns that were used Friday were bought legally, kept, and stored legally. They were under the ownership of one of the victims and her reasoning was the same as yours. She wanted to keep guns. She educated herself and her children on the use of them, teaching them to shoot and taking them to the gun range regularly. She was totally open about that fact and in compliance with current law. Up until Friday morning, the Lanza family was the very definition of law abiding.

      And then Adam Lanza picked up the legally owned handguns and assault rifles and gunned down 28 people.

      Saturday, an 18-year-old man was arrested because he was planning to use the guns he had access to, which were legally obtained, to shoot up a high school.

      Sunday, a man in Indiana was arrested for planning to kill his wife and then attack ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL using the 47 guns he legally obtained.

      A 42-year-old destitute man fired 50 rounds at the Fashion Island luxury mall in Newport Beach, California, on Saturday evening. No one was injured.

      A man shot an employee at the Excalibur hotel-casino in Las Vegas on Friday night, shot at several more and then shot himself to death.

      A man opened fire on people in a restaurant and then a movie theater parking lot in San Antonio on Sunday night,

      In Mississippi, one man is dead and two are injured (including the dead man’s father) “after an argument over a man ‘doing donuts’—or spinning his truck in circles—in a field.”

      The men suspected of a drive-by shooting Sunday morning in Slidell, Louisiana, were allegedly firing into the family’s home in retaliation for an earlier shooting at Gloria’s Bayou Lounge that left one man dead.

      “Police in Alabama killed two suspects Saturday following separate shooting incidents 75 miles apart that left three other people dead and several injured, including two officers.”

      Oh and today, while the VP of the NRA was blaming everything he could think of other than guns for the deaths in Newtown, a man was walking down the street, shooting at people in Pennsylvania.

      BTW, I’m only including those events that could fall under the heading of “Mass Shooting,” or the attempt thereof.

      You know what all those people had in common? Right up until they shot or announced that they were planning to shoot they were in compliance with the law and would have fit anyone’s definition of educated, law abiding gun owner.

      The question that I have for pretty much everyone who is on the pro-gun side of the argument is this; in the face of 30,000 gun deaths a year, 87 a day, 8 dead children a day when are you going to stop trying to protect YOUR GUNS and start trying to protect your fellow citizens?

    • Damn, I wish I could think of soinmhteg smart like that!

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